Hello Sue,
Wellington turned on a Fabulous day – venue was on the waterfront by the - Te Papa Museum.

Sue said.
The more I think about that 1823 deed from (Crow Creen) Daniel Looney to second son Robert the more certain I feel that Daniel’s eldest son John was dead.

Averil said.
No - eldest son John is not dead.

Daniel Looney(Isabel Cashin) has 2 Properties – Gob ny Scoote in Heirship Bargain and Crow Creen.

Gob ny Scoote - descended to his Eldest son – John Looney(Isabel Camaish) by Heirship Bargain.

Which then passed to His son - John Looney1788(Rachel Redhead) by Heirship Bargain.

Daniel Looney(Isabel Cashin) - then gave Crow Creen to his second eldest son - Robert Looney(Jane Creer) in 1823.

Leaving them both with their own piece of Land.

A History of Kirk Maughold by Constance Radcliffe.

An extract – on page 268 - Reads.

By her marriage to John Looney, she had nine sons and one daughter,
and from six of these sons are descended all the Looneys in Maughold at the time of the 1841 Census.

Please can you show me – the descent - from John Looney(Margaret Kelvy) and John Looney(Isabel Camaish) to the 1841 Census ???

Averil