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Joney McDonald/McDaniel
In Response To: Re: Refernces ()

Joney McDonald/Joney McDaniel is just one person. Perhaps when spoken, they both sounded the same. Because there are several instances of the name being transcribed as McDonald, and several as McDaniel, I wondered if the 2 names were interchangeable --- or just transcription errors ?

Yesterday, I had a proper look for the first time at the part of this long thread which was written in June 2010, and was pleased to see that there's some very interesting research on the descendants of the Henry Gick b 1798 who was a brother of your John Gick b 1813. I'll paste in here one of Mark E Dixon's messages:

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1st June 2010
Hello, Gicks! I was delighted to find this message string in a Google search for Gick information. The Gicks are among my obscure lines, and I would very much like to make connections with others.

I'm descended from Henry Gick (1832-1896) who, according to his obituary, came to the United States from Liverpool when he was nine years old, i.e., about 1841.

I have two primary sources of information about my Gicks. First is the Gick family Bible, in my possession. The pertinent entries, I think, are these:

Marriages
Henry Gick to Catherine Needham July 25 1825

Henry Gick to Mary E. Mcnamara July 4 1855

Births
Elizth Harrot Gick Daughter of Henry & Cathe Gick born August 25 1827

Henry son of Henry & Cathe Gick born April 30 1832

Robt Edw son of Henry & Cathe Gick born Oct 29th 1834

Deaths
Henry Gick died July 23 1834

Cathe Gick died Oct 28 1843

Elizth H. Gick died July 11 1849

From this, I know that my England-to-US immigrant, Henry Gick, was the son of Henry and Catherine (Needham) Gick. I believe that all pre-1841 events occurred in the UK, probably in or about Liverpool. All events after 1849 occurred in the United States.

My second major source of information about the Gicks is the Mormon IGI, which added two generations to the line so that it looks like this:

John Gick m. 1752 Joney McDonald/McDaniel
Archibald Gick (b. 1765) m. 1794 Elizabeth Yates

Henry Gick (1798-1834) m. 1825 Catherine Needham

Henry Gick (1832-1896) m. 1855 Mary McNamara

These are the family groups as found in the IGI:

Family Group #1...
John Gick
Buried Kirk Malew, IOM, on 5 May, 1780 w/children John and Mary*

MARRIED 4 November, 1752, Kirk Rushen, IOM

Joney McDonald
Christened: 24 May, 1730, Kirk Rushen, IOM
Buried Kirk Malew, IOM, on 26th June, 1784*
Father: John McDonald
Mother: Ellinor Waterson

*Source: Felthams Memorial Inscriptions

Children:
John Jick
Christened 22 Aug., 1756, Malew parish, IOM

William Gick
Christened 18 July, 1759, Malew parish, IOM

John Gick
Christened 25 Oct., 1761, Malew parish, IOM

Archibald Gick
Christened 20 Oct., 1765, Malew parish, IOM

Family Group 2......
Archibald Gick
Married (when? where?)
Elizabeth Yates

Children:
Mary Gick
Christened 1 Jan., 1795, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Ann Gick
Christened 8 May, 1796, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Henry Gick
Christened 18 Jan., 1798, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Archibald Gick
Christened 29 Sept., 1799, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Elizabeth Gick
Christened 1 Feb., 1801, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Judith Gick
Christened 5 Sept., 1802, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Mary Jane Gick
Christened 18 July, 1804, St. Peters Parish, Liverpool, England

Elizabeth Gick
Christened 16 Nov., 1806, St. Peters Parish, Liverpool, England
Married William Harrison, 7 Nov., 1847, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Margaret Gick
Christened 7 May, 1809, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

John Gick
Christened 16 May, 1813, St. Peters Parish, Liverpool, England

Family Group 3...
Henry Gick
Christened 18 Jan., 1798, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England
Married
Catherine (Needham?)

Children:
Elizabeth Harriet Gick
Christened 25 Sept., 1827, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

Henry Gick
Christened 20 May, 1832, St. Nicholas Parish, Liverpool, England

I hope this is enough to start making some connections.

Mark E. Dixon
Wayne, PA, USA

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End of Mark's message.

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A family bible with handwritten entries of births etc----how exciting ! Perhaps Mark would photograph the relevant pages for you. And in another message, there's a reference to a photo of Henry Gick b 1832, nephew of your John Gick b 1813.

I found this marriage in the new IGI:
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Name: John Fick
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 04 Nov 1752
Event Place: Rushen, Isle of Man
Gender: Male
Death Age:
Marital Status:
Father:
Mother:
Spouse: Jony Mcdonald
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father:
Spouse's Mother:
Digital Folder Number: 004499924
Image Number: 00232

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I found the following in Frances's Manx Note Book:

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From Feltham's memorial inscriptions in MNB:
Malew Church Yard:
1780 John Gick, 5th May, 53
With John and Mary his children
1784 Joney Gick, 26th June, 60
1791 William Gick, June 1st,

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This would suggest that Joney was born in 1724.

Jean C

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