I am moving along somewhat successfully in my search. Taking the advice of members on this site and Chris has been invaluable as it turns out my written Genealogy handed down from somewhere was wrong. My gr Grandfather's Father was also a John Gick . He was born in 1816 and married to Emma Ball in 1840 in Lancashire ( I saw marriage certificate and 1841 Census ) My gr Grandfather was then born in Inchicore, Dublin in 1849 and married Anna Swan of Meath in 1876. While I now know my GR GR Grandfather was born in 1816 and I also know his Father was Archibald Gick that is absolutely all I can find and therefore I am unable to go back any further in my history unless someone has a new idea. I am now signed onto all sites I know of Rootsireland/Findmypast( unpaid)/irishgenealogy ( where I found the most info)/Familysearch/Ancestry. I have a couple of possible Gr GR GR Gandfather Archibalds as guesses from birthdates and a lack of many Archibald Gick's, one born in 1796 and one in 1799 but no proof either are the right one. Where do I go from here?. I clearly am having trouble getting back to the Isle of Man