Hi Michael

This is William's baptism from the IGI:

WILLIAM GICK Pedigree
Male

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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 JUL 1759 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: JOHN GICK Family
Mother: JONEY MCDONALD

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If you just enter "John/Gick/Joney" in the parents boxes, plus 1765+/- 10 years, British Isles, Isle of Man, and nothing else, you get the following:

****1. JOHN GICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 OCT 1761 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

2. ARCHIBALD GICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 OCT 1765 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

3. JOHN JICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: 16 NOV 1757

4. JOHN JICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 AUG 1756 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

5. WILLIAM GICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 JUL 1759 Malew, Isle Of Man, England

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Then, looking at each entry individually, you see that Archibald and John b 1761 both have Joney Mc Daniel as mother, whereas the other two have Joney Mc Donald as mother.

So how do you prove conclusively that this Archibald b 1765 was the Archibald who was the father of your John Gick who married Emma Ball ? Would you write out for us all the details from the 1840 marriage cert of John and Emma, please. If John's father's occupation is given as "tailor", that should be pretty conclusive.

Have you found all the Liverpool parish record scans on Ancestry ? Just using the surname Gick without a christian name, in combination with a broad year range, demonstrates how few Gicks there were. It's a shame that John and Emma left Liverpool to settle in Ireland, leaving no scope for finding Liverpool census entries with cousins, aunts, uncles etc in the same household which would have been a good way of firming up relationships.

Have you found those will summaries in Manx Note Book ? When you visit the island in May, you could view the wills and see if there are any small details in them which might prove to be illuminating. Maybe you could look at property transactions since Archibald must have sold his share of the Castletown house when he moved over to the mainland.

Jean C