Hello Larry,
I will have a look at your Looney family DNA project and the one shown as L-5 that points back to the Isle of Man.
There is no Robert Looney born 1692 in Maughold, Isle of Man.
All the information comes from Frances – who has the Website – A Manx Note Book – www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/
Below is my reply to Sarah.
Hello Sarah,
That's exactly what I wanted to see - Thank you.
this leads right back to the Malew Looney Family, you have c1692 for Robert Looney (went to America).
AND - Robert Looney Baptised in 1689 - is your match - Well done!
Robt Lowney marriage: 07 Jun 1677 Malew Alice Quiney
Children,
Alice Lowney 15 Jan 1677 Malew parents: Robt
Eliz Lownie 04 Sep 1681 Malew parents: Ro
Mary Lowney 14 Sep 1684 Malew parents: Ro
Tho Lownie Apr 1686 Malew parents: Robt
Robt Lowney 19 Jun 1689 Malew parents: Robt
Cathrin Lowney 14 Dec 1690 Malew parents: Robt
Christian Lownie 19 Aug 1694 Malew parents: Ro
and when you get your CD from Frances - you can trace back another Generation - clue = Will of Robert Looney 1674
Re: Robert Looney of the American Colonies
By:Frances
Date: 29/2/2012, 10:20 am
In Response To: Re: Robert Looney of the American Colonies (Averil)
correction they are still only summarised on the CD (most of a deed is legal boiler plate) - if people need a transcript or want to query my reading of a place name (not always easy as usually only mentioned once) either contact me or pay for a copy of deed from Museum - if you have access to the extremely expensive place name books by George Broderick then he usually gives the deed ref under a placename entry which may give another mechanism of finding a relevant deed.
The index on the CD is complete in all but one or two parishes to 1801, and in the smaller parishes to 1847 when the registration mechanism changed (more will be added during my return to Peel next week to while away time on boat + train) - the Museum has had a team of volunteers working on the post 1880 deeds (to be accessible via iMuseum) and probably will start on the post 1847 books shortly.
I've made a very small start on mortgages - these will be added once the deed index is complete (23,000 deeds pre 1847 with maybe 20% Douglas - there are some 1800 marriage contracts in the deeds) - maybe 10,000 ? mortgages.
Below is my reply to Shelby.
Hello Shelby,
Frances has found your Isle of Man family,
Frances wrote :
I suspect the Robert is probably better linked with Ballasalla Malew than Maughold which if I understand the earlier discusion was a late guess that seems not borne out by any facts - there are several Looneys (or Lewneys) from Ballasalla that appear to have Irish links eg see 1726 decree of Thomas (+ my earlier land transfer) - s/o Robt Loony(late of Ballasalla) being out of Island several yrs - his sis Christian Looney reported her sis Cath Loony in Dublin stated he had been dead several years + that she Christian had heard nothing to contrary for 7 yrs; sibs Robt, cath + christian jt admrs;court order for Robt Looney(Ballasalla) to pay sis Christian Serjeson all due by death parents Robt + Alice Loony;Robt queried whether Christian (who had been out of Island 23yrs) was his sister but several neighbours made oath that she was
www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/willsums/mw1700.htm
1726-3 E d LOONEY Thomas s/o Robt Loony(late of Ballasalla) being out of Island several yrs - his sis Christian Looney reported her sis Cath Loony in Dublin stated he had been dead several years + that she Christian had heard nothing to contrary for 7 yrs;
sibs Robt,cath + christian jt admrs;court order for Robt Looney(Ballasalla) to pay sis Christian Serjeson all due by death parents Robt + Alice Loony;Robt queried whether Christian (who had been out of Island 23yrs) was his sister but several neighbours made oath that she was
1727 A 34 ROTHMELL Catherine FOX als QUALTROUGH [full]mc dated 14 may 1717 for dau cath fox to be w/o robt tear (bro to revd Mr Walker);husb john (names property inc broken walls);son byron fox
www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/cd_only/libasd/mw/mwod1_17.htm
[courtesy Sally Ann Kinley]
South Side Sale, Old Deed (bundle 1) #17 Malew (Nov 1706)
Ewan Looney to Edward Shimin
Know all men by theise presents, that wee Ewan Lowney, and my wife
Issable; Divers causes, & valuable consideracons, us thereunto moving,
but espetially; for & in consideration, of the full, whole, & intire Summ,
of fifteen Shillings of good & lawfull money of England first in hand [obscured]
by our well beloved friend & neighbour: Edw Shymin & his wife Issable
Have wth the consent of Wm Kinley, & his wife Margarett; who have had in
consideration of their right, the full Sum of five Shills of like money,
Have hereby alienated, bargain’d, & Sold; And do hereby alienat, bargain,
and Sell, unto the aforesd Edw Shymin, and his wife Issable, their heires,
executrs administratrs & assignes; All that nMesuages, or Tenement ofA
houses, & garden, wch if part of the Tenement, Now in the possession of
him the sd Edward of the yearely rent of eight pence situate in the
town of Balla salla, with all Easmts, wayes, watercourses, & lybertyes,
there unto belonging, or in any wayes appertaining for ever, In consideration
of the premises, & for the better assurance hereof; Wee the sd Ewan Lowney,
and Issable my wife, do bind us, our heires; executrs administratrs
or assignes to keep & defend them, the sd Edward & his wife Issable,
their heires, or assignes for ever; do & from all manner of
persons claiming any title or interest to the premises; And do alsoe
hereby draw?, the Right worspfl officers confirmation here unto
As witness our marks to our names this 21st of 9br [November] 1706
in penallly of double the value, the one half, to our Honble Lord,
and the other part, or half to the sd Edw Shymin & wife theire
heires, executrs administratrs & assignes
Ewan Lowney my mark X
Signed & Delivered Issable Lowney my mark X
[obscured by fold] of Wm Kinley my mark X
John Presson X Margarett Kinley my mark X
Robt Lowney X
Att a Court holden in Castle Rushen the
29th Nov 1706
Ewan Lowney Issable Lowney and Wm Kinley came
into Court and acknowledged the above Bargane
to be their act & Deed, whereupon the Same
is allowed of and confirmed according to the
Statute provided in that behalfes
Jon Parr Robt Mawdesley
Wm Sadden P Rowe Chris Parker
M M Ross
Here is the the ‘Maughold Looney’ family tree.
PHILLIP - 4th Feb. 1657 [Will] married. Margrett Kneale - Burial, Lowny, …. Vxor Phillip - 28th Sep. 1679 [Will].
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JOHN 11th Oct. 1647 – 14th Nov. 1699 [Will] Jo Looney married, Margery Woods April ye 16th 1665.
Burial, Margery Lowny, 6th March 1687/88 [Will]
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JOHN b. 1687 [Will] m. Margaret Kelvy [Will] [Margaret Creetch alias Looney alias Kelvy 1798]
I descend from Patrick Looney b. 1764 – (m. Catherine COWLE) - son of, John Looney & Margaret Kelvy.
Bob in England – who descends from, John Looney b. 1745 – (m. Margaret HUTCHIN) - son of, John Looney & Margaret Kelvy.
The New Zealand family – descend from Daniel Looney b.1745 – (m. Isabel CASHIN) - son of, John Looney & Margaret Kelvy.
Daniel Looney b. 1745 m. Isabel Cashin. - their son.
John Looney - Baptised 14th January 1770 - married, Isabel Camaish - their son.
John – Baptised 21st September 1888 - married. Rachel Redhead.
More of the New Zealand family - descend from Joseph Looney b. 1791 - (m. Isabella Looney) – son of, Ewan Looney & Mary Taggart.
Memorial Inscriptions Maughold.
N2.
Erected by JOSEPH LOONEY in memory of his father EWAN LOONEY of
Ballayilley who departed this life the 24th October 1850 aged 85 years.
N3.
Erected by CATHERINE KERUISH in memory of her mother MARY LOONEY wife of EWAN LOONEY of Ballayilley who departed this life the 6th of February 1851 aged 85 years.
Hope this helps,
Averil