Averil, thank you for all this information about the ancestors of John Callow Looney (1846-1904) in different lines. I have entered it on my Family Tree Maker file. It shows that these Looneys came from Lonan, and are not related, as far as we have gone, to the Maughold Looneys that we have been examining. This time I have only a few points to raise.
Taking first the posting of 8/8/2011, 10:36 a.m., under JOHN 1816 you have the burial of 1844 William Looney on 20th Jan 1871 at RAMSEY. That would be at Maughold, as Ramsey, St. Paul’s at least, has no churchyard, and his MIs, at graves 92 and P27 state that he died on 20th Jan 1847, as you report, not 1871.
In your posting of 11/8/2011, 6:56 a.m. you quote from Frances’s CD a baptism of John, son of William Lewney, in December 1781. Are you confident that this is the future Master Mason? Unlike many old Manxies of his time, he is pretty consistent about his age. In the three censuses given we have ages and calculated dates of birth:
1851 64 1786/7
1861 75 1785/6
1871 84 1786/7
The baptism comes about 5 years earlier.
When we come to Mary Callow and your posting of 8/8/2011, 10:40 a.m. we have once more a tree of Constance Radcliffe for comparison, her tree of Callow The Dhullan. Her list of children of William Callow and Elinor Fargher is the same as yours, except that for 1811 she has William rather than another Margaret. You will have noticed that when William snr.’s estate was being dealt with in 1862 his children were listed, two sons and two daughters, one of the sons being William. I have checked the IGI and found that early Margaret but not a William among the children. Do you think that the transcriber at the LDS might have made a mistake, and written Margaret instead of William, perhaps from an adjoining baptism? Has anyone seen the register of Ramsey baptisms?
Quite a lot could hang from this, for on CKR’s tree the 1811 William, a corn merchant, died in 1885, having married his cousin Ann Kelly, Barroose in 1841 and had ten children. They are
Ann 1843
William 1844
John Joseph 1846
Ellen 1848-1883
Robert C 1849-1853
James H 1850-1853
Margaret 1853 d
Sophie 1855
Charles H 1860
Emily J 1862-1895
At the foot of the tree she notes “Many descendants can be added”.
In the Maughold book the Radcliffes state on p. 282 “By his purchase of the Dhullan Daniel established an independent Callow family which can have no equal in the number of its members who have become prominent in the business life of Ramsey in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, particularly in the building trade.” They go on to list some of these businesses, but without naming the individual Callows found in each.
William and Ann and their young and unmarried children are buried in Maughold graves B44 and B45, not far from other members of the Dhullan family, in graves B40, B41 and B42, though not William’s own parents William C and Elinor Fargher, who are buried in graves P25 and P26. William died on November 25th 1885 aged 74, which is consistent with a birth in 1811.