To Alexandra re Clugstone. Talked to my sister yesterday & she said that because John C was adopted by our great grandma, Ann Kinvig who already had a son called John & a son called Herbert, John adopted as a baby was mainly called Jack. I remember my gran talking about Jack when I was little but I thought she meant her own biological brother John. My sister also said that John C grew up not knowing that he was adopted. I don't know when he learnt this fact. My sister ALSO said (she knows more than I do) that John, his wife & she thinks his daughter visited our gran when we were small. She thinks one was called Nancy.