Thank you Frances that is VERY interesting. I will have to take a look at both of these. Thomas as the only legal child surviving of William and Isable will have inherited the family land as the eldest William was Illegitimate. In 1777 He would have been about 23 yrs of age. I got the will of Thomas (Punch) Garret 15 Jul 1777. His wife is alive but un named, His childen to me sound like they are of age. So I think this is an older man as Dau Catherine is exectrx. I looked but couldn't find the william Garrett (Trangath Moar) 29 Oct 1745 will on Manx notebook. Pauline