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Manx Genealogy

Adam Caine family of Kk Michael

I've started a new thread on this in hope that it is possible to sort the wheat from the chaff. - Think it proves that the Patrick in Carolina in 18th Century is not son of the adam who had twins;

In 1706 Lib Assed has under Oristall in Michael
Oristall

Pat Cannell 29s 6d

John Stephen 7s 6d, Ellen Stephen & Adam Caine her husbd 7s 6d, Ad Callister 15s 30s

John Curlet 14s 9d, {Jo Curlot & Adam his son} 14s 9d 29s 6d

Hu Callister 31s 4d

Sum £6 4d
Oristall is on the coastal side a little north of Bishops Court - the Michael parish boundary does a sudden northwards shift to include Orista (or Orrisdale) - it may well be nearer to Old Ballaugh chuch than Kk Michael
It is the 2nd line and in particular the 15s (double rent) farm split between John Stephen (father of Ellen as confirmed by Lib Vast) who was buried 25 Dec 1717 (incorrectly indexed as Bo Stephen).
Ellen and her husband are entered in this way as the property passed to the Caines by marriage - Adam Caine + ellinr Stoen (or stephen) were marr Michael 16960804
Their family was I think:
Margt Mic 16981106
Cath Mic 17010515
Jony Mic 17020220
John Mic 17040227
Kath Bal 17061105 - buried Micahel 17131124 d/o adam + elinr stoen
Margt Bal 17091114
Mary Mic 17100204 (note O/S dates 14months apart - Margt probably died as infant)
Philip Bal 17120717 twins ac ye gill patk ye younger bapt in the house + philip ye elder in ye church [bur sp bal 17131213]
Patrick Bal 17120717
Elinor Mic 17130325

The Michael reg pre 1712 is a copy of a much damaged earlier register and has several gaps - one has note severall names omitted being not legible of ye yong childr
(as a side note the IoMFHSoc transcription is also questionable - the extant register is much worn - a better reading was given for many by the 1911 official transcription - the IGI for Michael especially pre 1700 can be summed up by SNAFU)

John as the eldest male would be heir - however he died before his father

d 18 feb 1731;fa adam caine;bro patk;bro-i-law wm christian;sis mary + joney,elinor(exex) w/o wm kelly;witt thos cannell (also pledge with wm christian smith

Jony would appear not to have married - will 1754 d beg mar 1754;bro patk's two daus lucy + esther ;bro-i-law wm kelly;bro patt cain exc
Thus Patrick inherited the farm and can be found entered for it
1750
Oristall

{Thomas Cannell 29s 3d, Jo Cannell 3d}o1760 29s 6d

{Pat Caine} 15s, {Adam Callister junr}o1754 15s 30s

Wm Curlet 14s 9d, {Wm Cowle junr}m1752[Cath m1754] 14s 9d 29s 6d

{Hugh Callister & Cath Callister his grand daughter}m1750 [Cath Callister & John Clark her husb]o1750 31s 4d

Sum £6 4d

Adam d 3 nov 1733 [bur Mic 17331104];dau elinor,joney,mary;son patt;sis cath caine;wm kelly h/o ellinor [m mic 17330112];wife alive;pledges thos cain balllei? + thos key tailor
Elinor would appear to have remarried to Wm Croghan Ger 17351028 (note in reg cain als stephan kk michael) - her will (not yet seen is 1756;

Their son Patt inherited farm
NSS Oct 1751 17 (dated 16 may 1751) details a sale by Patt Caine + wife Alice (unfortuneately family name not given) of Oristall to Robt calister of said farm of a small parcel of Barley Flatt (ie a level field) adjoining Kiondrghad flatt (this is a little to south west of Oristall) for £20 on which the setting quest set 3d rent
- the rent for this part of Oristall is not 14s 9d in all future Lib Vasts
There are also two marriage contracts NSS Oct 1759 19 - dated 8 dec 1757;patk caine orristal + wife alice obo their son john;thos cannel + wife ellinor obo dau ellinor
and NSS May 1756 3 - dated 6 Oct 1755;Wm Christian + wife margt obo son john kk Patrick;patt cain + wife alice obo dau lucy;Wm gives John land worth 8s 8d rent;patt gives dau £14;witt john kelly x,tho cannell;

Patrick is buried Mic 17580224 (note in reg Fourtowns which is the strange name by which Oristall was often known - churchtown is now Kk Michael Village) - his will
d 24 feb 1758;fourtowns;dau esther caine admr;other ch john + lucy had mar contracts;pledges thos caine ballalheij + wm kelly churchtown;thos caine chosen as guardian;

John inherited Oristall farm but died shortly after fa
his will dated 18 apr 1764;fourtowns;son hugh(heir land purch robt callister) his dau born this day;wife exex

Hugh inherited and can be found in later Lib Asseds