Dear Frances,
Early morning here, 3:56 a.m. and about 9:00 A.M. here. I thank you again for replying, let's leave PATRCIK out the equation for awhile, and use as the equation, the mother, as the EQUATION, one mother was stated to be OUR'S ANNE CORLETT, your mother/S ALICE CALLISTER TO ADAM CAINE, ELINOR STOEN TO ADAM CAINE. If we correlate just only the one mother, HER LINE to ADAM'S LINE which you have stated, you think now that PATRICK CAME FROM ANNE CORLETT AND JOHN CAINE, which our JOHN CAINE maried ANN CARRAN, but going back to ANNE CORLETT, the reason I ever first came to the board was to find out about the CORLET side, for we had the CAINE SIDE. I accidently came to the this web site in searching for a genealogy web site while I was surfing the net I think in 2006, because when were coming to ENGLAND to bring Mother back to LEICESTER, I was going to the Isle to research and see my ancestry homeland, at that time I think LIZ and I had connected on the web, but were not writing back and forth, more that she helped me on the Manx board, the connection of her line and mine came later, but I was coming to Isle mainly TO FIND A LIVING LINEAGE PERSON for all the data throughout the years our family had done and what JOHN WIBLBY CAINE done, and a MANX descendant by our BIBLE AND OUR GENEALOGY, so when mother fell and we missed the train, and I have not gotten back, I began researching ANNE CORLETT, even called CORLETTS that leave in BALLAUGH, searching by phone to find my roots on that side, everything we had was fine until you came up with the marriage of ADAM CAINE TO ELINOR STOEN AND STATED THE TWINS WERE OFF THAT MARRIAGE, and then you stated nom HE WAS MARRIED TO ANN CALLISTER and they had only childe PATRICK CAINE, NO PHILIP, but under ADAME CAINE AND ELINOR STOEN WERE BOTH PATRICKAND PHIILIP, so confusion, confusion, so I went to the MORMON FILES to check on this marriage of ADAM AND ELEANOR STOEN it is a patron input and found no children,that is neither here no there, but you admitted you made a mistake, but let us now make ANNE CORLETT THE MAIN EQUATION, NOT MARRIED TO JOHN CAINE, FOR SHE WAS NOT , SHE WAS MARRIED TO ADAM CAINE, and let's suppose those records at BALLAUGH are missing which more than likely they are, Anne in her will states she has a grand son PATRICK CAINE AND HER SON WHO WAS HER EXECUTOR, she mention MARGARET QUGGIN, and JONEY , an equation has many parts, such as in algebra, which always has a formula to get to the answer, the formula has been laid out, ANNE CORLETT, A IN THE FORMULA, ADAM IS B IN THE FORMULA, PATRICK IS THE BLA NK C, and the end of the formula shall be called = D
so here we go,
A= ANNE CORLETT + B ADAM CAINE + C /N patrick caine = D son of A+B HAVE BEEN FOUND N HAS TO COME OUT RIGHT TO GET THE ANSWER.
N has already been found,EVEN under your own MANX NOTEBOOK, you have established, that ADAM CAINE had two children TWINS, JULY 17, 1712 BALLAUGH PARISH, PATRICK AND PHILP DIES/
N had already been found, ANNE CORLETT'S WILL STATING PATRICK he grandsonr, and PATRICK. HER SON,not only was PATRCK THERE, BUT ELINOR WAS THEIR for ADAM' WILL ABOVE ANNE'S, STATE ELINOR AND PATRICK AND ADAM STATES ELINOR AND PATRICK..
Say the parish record is missing of the marriage, if you follow collateral line you will come out with the same answer of N, PATRICK CAINE WAS THEIR SON, HE HAD A SISTER ALICE. If there is confusion, it began with ELINOR STEPAN, which the dates you have to look at, look at the dates.
PATRICK was in AUGUSTA COUNTY VIRGINIA , I went in again to AUGUSTA COUNTY VIRGINA records two days ago again and he is there IN ANOTHR PLACE BESIDES THE ONE WE HAD ESTABLISHED IN OUR GENEALOGY RECORDS with THOMAS LEWIS, the surveyor who taught him surveying, I think WE MUST KNOW THAT WHEN THE BIBLE IS FOUND which I pray so hard to be found, that you will see, the light, you must know, I check and recheck and I know that my ancestors would not lie about where PATRICK AND ALICE came from, PATRICK SR, AND PATRICK JR AND ALICE are all here, buried, PATRICK SENIOR AND ALICE AT FAMILY GRAVEYARD, PATRICK JR, WINDY HILL BURIED BY HIS WIFE 3 DAYS LATER WHEN THE TORIES KILLED HIM IN THE BATTLE OF SLAUGHTER FIELD, THAT IS THE D OF THE FORMULA, we are not IRISH, if that were true that would have been passed down, believe me IRISH here keep their trees down to the letter of the law, and they make sure you know exactly where they came from and if we were IRISH my grandmother NANCY ELIZABETH CAINE would have surely told me, for she was the story teller and we sat at her feet as she told us stories, and I told you years ago when writing she spake a dialect and words we did not understand, and asked you about that CELTIC NORSE religions, for she was very different in language, shw had words that even today as I was with my sister today, that me and my sister were talking about that she remembered but we could not understand. So I am sure that what was passsed down is NOT FABLES, for I have traced those words and they came to a tree that even way before JOHN CAINE, we had much before he was ever brought on the scene. I shall tell you that loose ends , NO, missing records at the PARISH maybe, but JOHN CAINE found his records, he did a succecsful job because I will state again your own MANX NOTEBOOK confirms his findings. SEARCH YOUR RECORDS , FRANCES, you do an excellant job, you have done so much on transcribing records, that it mammoth, and it takes a brillant mind to do such history of the magnitude you have done and continue to do. I do legal, I process data rapidly, files and files, I am a speed reader and so I may be old but I have always had a zipper mind, even in college the data I can process is incredible, I was told, I do the job of 5 paralegals on the cases I work, and I know what I am talking about I have devoured your MANX notebook, it is mind refreshing and gives so much history of the ISLE and I have loved using it and reading it over and over, so much data there, it is just a masterpiece, and you keep adding which makes it more wonderful, but you must see the forest, the trees may have blinded you. We get so thick in the battle sometimes we cannot find our way out. You must burn the midnight oil constantly as I do with my legal work,, my mind rolls best from 3:00a.m. until 9:00 a.m. then I go to the job, so I need very little sleep, because my mind is constantly going, so the tree is right and proper and it is an asset of your works, that many find loved ones, and meet and have reunions, find out health problems, etc, etc beatiful trees that are flourishing, so please know I want that reunion on the Isle and I know the BIBLE cannot lie, and I know my old family members living right now in their late 90's cannot be tale bearing, and I know JOHN CAINE did his work right, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE YOUR WORK right on the MANX NOTEBOOK. Let us just rest again, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE STAYED OFF THE BOARD AND KEPT MY WORD, BUT WHEN LIZ'S TREE was found I had to let her know how happy I was for her and thank all the board members who were so kind to work so hard for such loving and descent person who too works so hard for postees, even when not able, she would trek to graveyards to get their needs of request, so I meant no harm by coming back, just want my tree left as JOHN WIBLBY CAINE DID IT AND OUR FAMILY AND YOU. God Bless!!!
Kindly yours,
Mrs. Rosa