Dear Fances,
I shall now give you an e-mail of Thursday June 3, 2010 4:44 p,m.
Hi,
I think I've given this before- but the bapt of PATRICK, s/o PATRICK is in both MICHAEL AND BALLAUGH REGS on the same day- in neither is mother's name given, in Michael reg PATRICK SENIOR is given as FOURTOWNS-in Ballaugh as ' of KIRK MICHAEL"- FOURTOWNS is another name for ORRISTAL(orrisdal etc) PATRICK JUNIOR is ( I THNK) the son PATRICK CAIN AND ALICE,( not 100% sure of her family name) they had two daus, lucy and esther who appear in MICHAEL reg- the appearance of PATRICK JUNIOR in BALLAUGH is might be due to shorter distance to that church for a baptism of a weak infant,-luc+ esther can be recognized in will of JONEY CAIN of 1754-d beg mar 1754: BROTHER PATRICK'S two daus lucy = esther: bro-i-law WM KELLY: BROTHER PATRICK CAIN EXE
. PATRICK SENIOR I think is 1758-d 24 feb 1758: FOURTOWNS: dau esther caine admr: other ch JOHN + LUCY had mar contracts: pledges thos caine, BALLALHEIJ + WM KELLY churchtown,: THOMAS CAIN chosen as Guardian:
Now this PATRICK'S SENIOR was the son of ADAM CAINE in 1751 is noted in a sale dated 16 May 1751: PATRICK CAIN +ALICE CAIN, ORRISTALL: sell for 20s to ROBT CALLSITER also ORRSTALL parcell flat adjoining KIONDROGHAD flatt crossing in furrow n a line from the mere betwixt sd CALLISTER+CAIN unto a stone mark set in side of CALLISTER BRECKAN on west side of church way: witt THOM CAINE x, THOS CANNELL: setting quest set 3 d eent
ORRISTAL land up in the POSSESSION OF JOHN CAIN(?) -------- LOOK AT THIS FRANCES ,PLEASE, I AM ADDING MY WORDS HER, LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUSTED POSTED ABOUT BISHOP'S DEMENSE , THAT JOHN CAIN WAS ON BISHOP'S DEMENSE,AND THIS YOUWROT TO ME IN 2010!!! IT CAN'T BE BOTH WAYS!!! IT IS YES OR NO BISHOP'S DEMENSE OR ORRIDAL ----- d 1764- then his son HUGH whose wife MARY died in 1838 in whose will- date 14 oct 1834; widow of HUGH CAINE of ORRIDAALE: greatly advanced in age: ch WM, ELINOR(WO WLILLIIAM CORLET NOW IN AMERICAN) thomas ( NOW IN amrica in he comes) JOHN exor:
This is just one of our e-mails you and I have corresponded on the CAINE LINE. OUR JOHN CAIN, MARRIED ANN CARRAN, OUR PATIRCK MARRIED ELINOR CLARKE, OUR ADAM MARRIED ANNE CORLETT, OUR CAINE HELD BALLACAIN, SEE YOUR MANX NOTES AS FAR BACK AS 1515 UNER WILLIAM CAINE YOU HAVE OUR ADAM CAINE WHO INHERITED BALLAMEANAGH then you stated that PATRICK CAINE WAS NOT THIS ADAM'S CAINE'S SON TWIN OF PHLIP OF THE GILL YOU STATED ADAM FARMED KNOCKAN IN SCRONDALL WIFE ANN CALLISTER, SETTLE ESTATE OF SON PATRICK HALF OF ALL HOUSES AND LAND , QURTERLAND INTACK AND COTTAGE, please look at your own MANX NOTEBOOK. You have it all there, the research is done, and I believe you have showed more than JOHN WILBY CAINE, you jut keep getting more into the different PATRICK OF SO MANY WIVES, you have given me for himf 3 wives, and children and we have established that PATRICK ONLY HAD THE CHILDREN OF PATRICK JR, ELINOR, JONEY AND ALICE, HIS FATHER HAD HIM AND AILCE WHO CAME TO AMEIRCA, IN AUGUSTA COUNTY VIRGINIA, YOU STATED N YOUR LAST POST THAT JOHN CAINE was of the BISHOPS DEMENSE and he MARRIED ANNE CORLETT and our PATRICK CAME FROM THEM, LOOK at your own data. the dates, go back to the dates. You will see that ADAM AND ANNE WAS IN THE SAME DATLINE. You also have her will in the MANX NOTEBOOK. I did not even know about the board then and never had posted her will, you had her will way before I even knew of this board and all the data of JOHN WILBY CAINE AND YOUR data and his COME together by your own data.
I will write more later, must go, doctor's appointment.
Kindly yours,
Mrs. Rosa
P.S Frances much learning was once stated to PAUL in the Bible that he had gone mad from so much learning, he had learned under GAMAIEL, and our Lord, sometimes I think this shall apply to me and you, for our brains are burning with this madness, The line was done, and your data is sufficient it does back up JOHN CAINE'S work, so I am honored to have had both of your researches and both of such brains that we none can go their perhaps as laypeople, but 2+2=4, we cannot change a factor if the factor comes out right at the end.