Hi JC , Still no luck with 100% certainty about name of parents of John Kinvig who md Ann Watterson. I only joined the iomfhs this year & won't be on the IOM until Sept. I ordered the MI for Arbory a few weeks ago so should receive it soon. You are a good source of info & I wondered if you could tell me what bks/website etc you use to glean all your knowledge on Manx geneology as I need to expand more myself. Thanks. K