found my notebook
William Henry Forshaw fully joined Athole Lodge on 5 Apl 1893 - gave age as 28, adrees Ramsey profession draper.
The other Forshaw was Samuel Howard Forshaw who joined Athole Lodge 11 Jun 1889 age 26 address Douglas profession merchant.
strange that two by same name were in Lodge together tho by 1893/4 S H was shown as in arrears.