Let me throw my (somewhat conflicting) data into the mix. My husband is descended from William Gordon and Margaret Watterson Gordon through their son, James J. Gordon. We know nothing of the parents of William and Margaret. In 1973 an aunt put together the history of the Gordon side of the family; we have no other sources for this information. William and Margaret were both born on the Isle of Man. They came to America around 1868, and settled near Strawn, Illinois. All of their children were born on the IoM. William and Margaret Gordon are buried at Strawn, IL. They had 9 children: Katherine (married Tom Ankers), Mary Ann (married Herbert Faragher), Margaret (married Edward Faragher), Richard (married Margaret Shimons), James J. (married Sarah Nelson), Eliza (married Charles Pyle), Martha (married --Waterson), William G. (married Elsie --), and Robert (not married; died of TB at age 22 in 1889). Now as for Mary Ann, we show her having 5 children: Katie (married Ed Kessler), Alice (married -- Andreas), Edith (married Herman Knauer), Clara (married 1. Charles Spray 2. Myron Stotler), and Herbert (married and died on the Isle of Man). We find no mention of John Quine. I haven't studied this family yet, and have no vital records, census info, etc. It does seem to be the same family, doesn't it?