Hi Sonja
To try and make sense of this, I've copied Ancestry's transcriptions of your family:
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1851
Name Age
Willm Kneese 40
Jane Kneese 30
John Kneese 9
Thomas Kneese 7
Willm H Kneese 5
Eliza Kneese 3
Jane Kneese 1
Dl H Love 32
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1861
West Derby 5f/30
22 Wood St East
Name Age
William Kneen 48
Jane Kneen 39
William Kneen 15
Elizabeth A Kneen 13
Joseph Kneen 9
Edmund Kneen 7
George Kneen 4
Annie Florence Kneen 2
Mary Kneen 5 MO
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1871
WD 8/59
7 Schomberg St
Name Age
William Kneen 50
Jane Kneen 45
George Kneen 17
Edward Kneen 14
Annie Kneen 12
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1881
Everton 72/39
43 Breckfield Rd
Name Age
William Kneen 68
Jane Kneen 59
Mary Kneen 20
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Same Wm Kneen ?
(widr, living on own means b LP)
1891
Name Age
Charles Bishop 41
Elizabeth Bishop 45
Theresa Bishop 20
William Bishop 16
Samuel Bishop 10
William Kneen 78
(Elizabeth Ann Kneen m Charles Bishop 1868 West Derby)
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Below is the 1841 IOM census which 2 people with trees on Ancestry say is the William Kneen, tailor, who is outlined in the Liverpool censuses above. But this 1841 census entry can't be your William Kneen who married Jane Rowan, because this one seems to have a father, William, who was a blacksmith, and also, your William Kneen was already married to Jane Rowan before the 1841 census.
1841
Andreas 3/1
Name Age
William Kneen 50
Ann Kneen 50
William Kneen 25
John Kneen 20
Ann Kneen 15
Philip Kneen 15
Edward Kneen 12
Elizabeth Kneen 8
James Kneen 7
Catharine Kneen 4
(William 50 blacksmith and William 25 tailor)
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These 2 people say that the Wm Kneen, tailor, who is living in Liverpool through the censuses from 1851 onwards, married Jane McGeary in Liverpool in 1843. Perhaps they don't know that there was an earlier marriage of a William Kneen, tailor, to a Jane Rowan, because it doesn't show up in Ancestry's version of BMD due to a mistranscription:
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Kuern
Name: William Kuern
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
DISTRICT: Liverpool (1837-1934)
COUNTY: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 152
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Jane Roan
Name: Jane Roan
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
DISTRICT: Liverpool (1837-1934)
COUNTY: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 152
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Did you get the maiden name of Jane from the birth certificate of one of her children ? If so, which child, and what exactly does the certificate say ? It would help if you would set out all the details from all the certificates you have for William and his children.
There's some conflicting information on the 2 trees I've mentioned, and it would be a good thing to help them correct any wrong assumptions they've made.
Jean C
PS Both the trees have William's parents as John Kneen and Ann Cowin, but without any supporting evidence. I found a JK/AC marriage in the IGI but have no idea whether it may be relevant to you:
ANN COWIN Pedigree
Female Family
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN KNEEN Family
Marriage: 15 MAY 1805 Kirk Michael, Isle Of Man, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record
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