Hi Donna
I'm pretty sure that the Frances Caveen b circa 1856 Castletown, daughter of Thomas Caveen and Mary, is this one from BL's marriage index:
CAVEEN, Frances 14 Jul 1892 D dsg 47b KEED, Frederick
1892 seemed a bit late for a woman b 1856, but these burials give Frances Keed a birth year of approx 1856:
KEED, Francis 87 Dbc 26 Mar 1943
KEED, Frederick 76 Dbc 24 Jan 1926
And here are the couple (childless) in 1901:
Lancashire, Everton, South Everton, district 47, page 20
6 Richmond Terrace
Frederick Keed head mar 52 agent Prudential Assurance Co b London Paddington
Frances wife mar 44 b Isle of Man Castletown
Sorry to pour cold water on your findings.
To keep all this together in the same thread, I'll copy your message in here and post it to the original thread:
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Frances Amelia Caveen Cope Caine
Posted By: DJDouglass
Date: Wednesday, 26 August 2009, at 12:41 a.m.
A while back we were discussing the above. I had occasion to be looking at this today and believe we barked up the wrong tree for her parents.
It would seem that her father was Thomas Caveen b abt 1822 Castletown, her mother was Mary? b Ireland abt 1827
1851 Census
Castletown
16 Malew Street
Thomas Caveen head married 29 Constable b Castletown
Mary wife married 24 b Ireland
1861 Census Index
Castletown 2 168
CAVEEN
Erephia 7 b Castletown
Fanny 6 b "
James 1 b "
Mary 37 b Ireland
Nessy A b Castletown
Thomas 37 b Castletown
1871 Census Index
Castletown 2 105
CAVEEN
Eleanor 17 b Castletown
Elizabeth 7 b "
Frances 15 b "
James 11 b "
Martha 9 b "
Mary 49 b Ireland
Mary A 19 b Castletown
Thomas 50 b Castletown
Thomas 13 b Castletown
1881 Castletown
CAVEEN, Thomas, 2 Parliament Sq, Head, Married, 54, Farmer 24 Acres, C.Town
, C3, 16, , , , , , , Retd Police Constable
, C3, 16, 108, CAVEEN, Mary, 2 Parliament Sq, Wife, Married, 54, , Ireland
, C3, 16, 108, CAVEEN, Mary A., 2 Parliament Sq, Daughter, Unmarried, 27, , C.Town
, C3, 16, 108, CAVEEN, Emma, 2 Parliament Sq, Daughter, Unmarried, 26, , C.Town
, C3, 16, 108, CAVEEN, Elizabeth, 2 Parliament Sq, Daughter, Unmarried, 16, , C.Town
, C3, 17, 108, CAVEEN, James, 2 Parliament Sq, Son, Unmarried, 21, Farmers Son, C.Town
, C3, 17, 108, WILKINSON, Walter, 2 Parliament
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Going back to the MI you gave for Frances Amelia..........
Braddan New Burial Ground
Section Two
254/5
In loving memory of FRANK son of R.C. and F.A. Cain Draper Douglas who died 30th June 1889 aged 9 months
also FRANCES AMELIA beloved wife of R.C. CAIN who died April 9th 1900 aged 40 years
also in memory of ELEANOR the beloved wife of JOHN CAVEEN who died 1st Aug 1895 aged 77 years
also of the above named ROBERT CHARLES CLAGUE (must be CAIN) who died 8th Feb 1922 aged 64 years
In loving memory of HAROD CAIN who passed away September 5th 1912 in his 21st year
also LESTER DRURY CAIN son of the above died 3rd January 1963 aged 66 years
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........this looks like her parents and siblings a few years before she was born:
1851
Braddan district 4, page 29
Strang
John Caveen head mar 37 farm lab b Braddan
Eleanor wife mar 32 b Lonan
Robert son 5 b Braddan
Catherine dau 2 b Braddan
John Curphey lodger 10? b Douglas
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In 1861, Ancestry has this transcription:
1861 Isle of Man Census
about Ellen Caveen
Name: Ellen Caveen
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Braddan, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil Parish or Township: Braddan
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirk Braddan
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
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Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Caveen 49
Ellen Caveen 44
Robert Caveen 15
Catherine Caveen 12
Eleanor Caveen 9
Margaret A Caveen 6
Elizabeth Caveen 4
Francis D Caveen 1
John Curphey 20
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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4412; Folio: 61; Page: 3; GSU roll: 543279
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Braddan district 4, pages 3+4
Strang.
The "Francis D Caveen" above is actually written as :
Francis A Caveen dau 1 b Braddan
And this is how it appears in Brian Lawson's index:
CAREEN Frances A. 1 Bra 4412 61 13
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In 1871, she was mistranscribed by BL as Careen again:
CAREEN Frances 11 Bra 5777 38 12
This is Ancestry's version:
1871 Isle of Man Census
about Frances Carlen
Name: Frances Carlen
Age in 1871: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Female
Where born: Douglas, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil parish: Braddan
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Disability: View image
Registration district: Isle Of Man
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighboors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Carlen 58
Eleanor Carlen 53
Catherine Carlen 22
Margaret Carlen 16
Elizabeth Carlen 14
Frances Carlen 11
( "Braddan, Holyhead, district 3, page 3" )
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It looks as though father John died before the next census.
CAVEEN, John 60 Bra 5 Aug 1873
Then Frances Amelia married James Cope in Oct 1879 Braddan, and was a widow by the 1881 census.
Jean C