Hi Lyle,

Thanks for the explanations.
It looks as though Frances has sorted them out. "They married Andreas 17450511 with Phil noted as (Lord).." puts Philip firmly in with "The Teare Lords", and her wills and deeds show the relationships.

DS Dugdale's papers in the Manx Museum might have more information about where this "Teare Lords" name came from - only part of his research was included in the book.

Sue