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Re: ADAM CAINE
In Response To: Re: ADAM CAINE *PIC* ()

Dear Averil,
At that time, that filing, which many have used PATRICK CAIN as their entrance in the DAR. The family Bible, which was left in the hands of the WALKERS, NATHANIEL WALKER, who married ALICE CAIN, PATRICK'S SISTER, states in the Bible, they were both off the Isle of Man, and PATRICK, SR. Which I have stated I have NOT seen the Bible and ongoing research if for finding it.

Why Franklin put EDISTO as his place of birth was because the PATRICK CAIN, lived and surveyed lands in ORANGBURGH,holdings WERE GREAT. NATHANIEL WALKER HAD GREAT HOLDINGS who married ALICE CAIN OFF THE ISLE, IN THAT AREA.

The earliest record of PATRICK SR, coming into America is in AUGUSTA CO. VA, on MARCH 11, 1747 when Thomas LEWIS surveyed a plat of 200 acres of land for him ( page 27, surveyor's notebook) On Decmeber 11, 1749 he received a land grant for 200 acres on Cedar Creek on Hunter's Spring Draft( LAND ENTRY BOOK NO 1, AUGUSTA COUNTY, ON MARCH 30 1750, HE HAD ANOTHER SURVEY made by THOMAN LEWIS for 220 arces in Auguata Co.

References for PATRICK JR;
(1) North Carolina Department of Archives and History Military Collection, Troop Returns 1747-1859 , Militia Returns (1747-1769) Box 1, Folder, ANSON COUNTY.
(2) FIRST COUNCIL OF SAFETY OF THE REVOLUNTIONARY PARTY, published in the SOUTH CAROLINA HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL MAGAZINE ,pages 127,128.
They are many more references.

In coming to South Carolina after marrying Molly Griffith, he was a surveyor for the ORANGBURGH district in 1775, and he was DEPUTY SURVEYOR . This is an error in his birthplace, and honest error, for many, that applied for DAR, were using PATRICK CAIN FROM ABBEVILLE DISTRICT which he was from IRELAND, and not our PATRICK, ABBEVILLE IN ONLY 70 MILES FROM ORANGBURGH, so this is what happened when FRANKLIN CAIN side applied, by putting his birth in EDISTO, which is the name given off the EDISTO RIVER. which flows through ORANGBURGH. ORANGBURGH is bounded by the SALKAHATCHEE AND EDISTO RIVERS and PATRICK did surveys, really, he surveyed about all of that area.

He became an OFFICER IN 1775, joined under CAPTAIN ANDREW CUMMINGS COMPANY OF VOLUNTEER MILITIA on the OCTOBER 9, 1775, HIS NAME APPEARS ON THE ORGINAL PETITION TO THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS, APPOINTED FIRST LIEUTENANT, HE WAS UNDER THE FIELD OFFICERS OF THE COLLETON COUNTY REGIMENT OF FOOTE (2).

UNDER HIS COMMAND IN 1781 they were ambushed at HEALING SPRINGS, WINDY HILL AND THEY CALL IT SLAUGHTERFIELD, because it was an ambush and they were slaughtered. Alice only liveD about mile from the battle, which many call a skirmish.

The reason for putting EDISTO was that he was a surveyor and lived in the area. Records of PATRICK SR. coming in AUGUSTA COUNTY VA, refute that, and his marriage to MOLLY GRIFFITH in ANSON COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA. FRANKLIN and many put wrong data down, all they wanted was to be in the DAR, which that is a very big passage of hiearchy here in AMERICA. I daresay, I would love to see where you will find a birth of PATRICK JR. on this side of the pond. We had a genealogist do our work, FRANKLIN surely did not. We did our homework. I have three names by birth and graduation and all three have been used. JONNIE, JOHNNIE, JONIE, so it is not unusual for data to be confused. I do know I have been to the graves of ALICE CAIN OFF THE ISLE AND SLAUGHTERFIELD WHERE PATRICK IS BURIED UNDER A TREE, AND PATRICK SR, IS BURIED IN BARNWELL. PATRICK SR. was in the will of a relative in 1779 ,WINTON COUNTY, BARNWELL DISTRICT, PATRICK JR. had been killed some 20 years earlier by the Tories. PATRICK SR, died in Barnwell County, and buried there.

I can assure you that the putting EDISTO which is actually a part of ORANBURG and ST, MATTHEWS is 10 minute away, was because he surveyed there. I WAS BORN AND RAISED in this area, and my grandmother NANCY ELZABETH CAINE, and all the CAINS LIVED IN BARNWELL, BLACKVILLE, HEALING SPRINGS, WHICH NATHANIELWALKER bought the Springs off the Indians, he was from England, and ORANBURGH, AIKEN, WINDSOR, WINTON, which is old Barnwell is where the CAIN/E'S ALL LIVED. LANCASTER, KERSHAW, AND ANDERSON, COLUMBIA, ALL LIVE NEAR. Some did move away to Georgia and Florida. So they put EDISTO, they were the CAIN side, so they did not have access, I am sure to the BIBLE, it was in the hands of the WALKER SIDE, ALICE MARRIED NATHANIEL WALKER .

We must realize, many have put in the MORMON files wrong data. We have to accept it, even though it is wrong. I can fully state, that PATRICK AND ALICE were born BY PARISH RECORDS,(Baptismal records) on the Isle of MAN.

This data will be forwarded to a genealogist on the Isle, copies, and she shall finalize, and with records, missing at BALLAUGH, we may never have all the picture. but PATRICK WAS OFF THE ISLE, PATRON ENTRIES, in DAR are just like MORMON, mistakes have been made. MILITARY RECORDS cannot lie.

Thank your Averil, but family records show all this, the DAR, WANTED MILITARY DATA,WAR DATA, which there was plenty of that to show he served and was killed in the REV. WAR.

Kindly yours,

Mrs. Rosa