That theory for John has turned out to be wrong, as Phil wrote.
John Radcliffe bpt 1823 s/o Alexander and Catherine Sayle marr. Isabella Thompson 8 Oct 1849 Liverpool. Marr. Sarah Garner June quarter 1879 West Derby.
Died March quarter 1901 West Derby
Children
William Alfred b 5 Nov 1851 West Derby, marr. March quarter 1876 Chorlton Mary Ann Christian. Marr. Amanda ? ? date. Died Mar 1913 Toxeth Park.
Charles Alexander b Dec quarter 1853 West Derby, marr. Dec quarter 1875 Clara Eliz Lawson. Died March quarter 1885 Toxeth Park.
Kate Dora b Sept quarter 1859 Liverpool, marr William Joseph James Dec quarter 1880 West Derby.
Kate emigrated to the USA arr 28 Oct 1906. She was a widow. Joining her son Joseph and daughter Mabel in NYC.
1851 census Toxeth Park, 5 Newton st:
John Radcliffe 27 journeyman shipwright IOM
Isabella 23 Workington
Thomas Radcliffe brother 19 journeyman Tailor IOM
Thomas Corlett cousin 27 journeyman tailor.
[From Carol Gosselin]
1881 censuses:
Dwelling: 31 Menzie St
Census Place: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341873 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3643 Folio 8 Page 10
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Charles A. RADCLIFFE M 27 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Bookkeeper
Clara E. RADCLIFFE M 25 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife
Stanley L. RADCLIFFE 2 M Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Son
Margaret RADCLIFFE 5 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Edith M. RADCLIFFE 3 F Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur
Dwelling: 3 Plevna St
Census Place: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341873 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3643 Folio 81 Page 43
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Wm.Alfred RADCLIFFE M 29 M Liverpool Rel: Head Occ: Ship Carpenter
Mary RADCLIFFE M 27 F Isle of Man, England Rel: Wife Occ: Milliner
Percy Christian RADCLIFFE 4 M Liverpool Rel: Son
Mabel Evelyn RADCLIFFE 2 F Liverpool Rel: Daugh
Dwelling: 52 Rhiwlas St
Census Place: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341873 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3646 Folio 67 Page 52
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John RADCLIFFE M 57 M Isle of Man, England Rel: Head Occ: Shipwright
Sarah RADCLIFFE M 44 F Prescot, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife Occ: Shipwright Wife
[from Ian Radcliffe]
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