the reference to ramsey is in the 1891 census for liverpool. ref. rg12/2915. he is there with wife and 6 children.
john also appears in 1881, again in liverpool with the same wife but this time using his second name of edwin and living with his in laws.
i have also traced him in 1871, again in liverpool, this time single and living with his aunt catherine lewis. she is aged 39 and was bn. i.o.man. also living there is his cousin james lace from i.o.man.
john was married in 1873 in liverpool to mary ann harris and his father s name was john edwin wade, butcher.
i dont know if you can make any sense out of this, but i am at a loss as to where he lived before 1871 when he appears in liverpool aged 19. as far as i can make out he does not appear on any earlier census either in i.o.man or in england.
heres hoping. pat.