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Re: Fayle and Cain
In Response To: Fayle and Cain ()

Hi Bob

I've been looking for your Thomas Fayle, farmer, father of your g grandfather, Thomas b circa 1826 who married Ellen Cain in 1847.

Using Brian lawson's census index alongside Ancestry, I've looked at the Thos / Thomas Fayle / Fell entries for IOM 1841 and 1851, and narrowed it down to the following 2 possibilities:

1) The Thos Fayle (in Hanover Street, Onchan, in both 1841 and 1851,) married to Jane, with a 15 year old son Thomas at home in 1841. In 1841 he's "Independant" and in 1851 he's a fisherman. Did he leave Hanover Street between 1841 and 1851 to take up farming ? Highly unlikely, so I'd eliminate him. And I think that he's the one who married Jane Quiggin ( she may have been a Jane Kelly who had a first marriage to a Thomas Quiggin, going by yhe IGI entries for her children with Thomas Fayle ????)

2) the only Thos Fayle who is a farmer in the right age range-----b circa 1776, of Ballig, Braddan. His wife is Margaret nee Gelling b 1787, daughter of a schoolmaster, Robert Gelling, and Jane Kelly who died in childbed in 1795 when Mgt was 8. The problem here is that the IGI has these children of Thos Fayle and Mgt Gelling:
Any Event, 1812 - 1832, Isle of Man, British Isles
Father: Thomas Fayle, Mother: Margaret
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1. JOHN THOMAS FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUL 1823 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

2. MARGT FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAR 1822 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

3. THOS FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: 31 AUG 1818

4. THOS FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 AUG 1818 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

5. JANE FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 MAY 1825 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

6. MARY ANN FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 AUG 1819 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

7. ELIZTH FAYLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAY 1829 Braddan, Isle Of Man, England

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So, there's no Thomas Fayle b 1826/7. It would be helpful to find out whether the Thomas b 1818 did actually die shortly after birth, and whether the John Thomas b 1823 survived past infancy. Could your g grandfather Thomas fit into the gap between Jane in 1825 and Elizabeth in 1829, since all the rest of the births are pretty close together.

Food for thought, anyway.

Below are 2 possible will entries for this Thomas. It would be really useful to see these.
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FAYLE, Thomas 1851 Bra A 23 0106253
FAYLE, Thomas 1851 Bra A 33 0106253
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Jean C