This is what I am trying to get to. fork lore in My Family goes that our GGGGGgrand father was sent to the New World to Cut timber to send back to Ramsey Boat works on The Isle Of Man This timber was near Stauton Va. It was taken to ports on the Va. coast by 60 to 100 oxen att the pace of 3 to5 miles a day,then loaded on ships going to the Ilse of Man .If you look at (Ramsey Draft Wilderness.com) You will see what timber I am talking about.