Hi Janette. Sorry but I can't help with your query. The names that you mentioned are all new to me. But it sounds like progress is being made, which is great. There are quite a few different Gelling lines, though I think with a lot of work we'd find that there are perhaps a half-dozen groupings of Gellings that come out of the 1600s. I'm convinced that my Onchan sub-group ties into one of the Braddon groups, but have never been able to find the link.