Thanks so much, Elizabeth. I will certainly look into this. It could be. I had found out quite awhile ago that Samuel's son John Maxwell Brew (my grandfather who was born in 1853) left the IOM when he was l7 (that would have been 1870 for Canada, on what ship, from where, I don't know. In l899 he was in Vancouver Canada, but I didn't know where his mother Elizabeth, but either with him or sometime later I found that she died in Vancouver in l900. So, they could possibly have been in England in l865. I'll sure look into it. I really appreciate your help.Helen