yes I saw Rose's age at burial which meant that the 1847 will was probably not the Rose I was interested but in want of any other I was planning to look it up next week - thanks for her birth info (seems that much stuff fell of BL's site) thus given her deed of gift in 1825 + age I would have expected a burial within a few years + disposal of the house - there are a couple of deeds in that time period that might be it - both Mary + Paul are buried in Braddan (as is their eldest son Robert who predeceased them in 1781) but Feltham never recorded that yard and if there was a MI for Mary (or Robert) which I would have expected, it doesn't appear to have survived - wasn't too interested in 2nd wife Rose (tho she + son-in-law John Cannell who married Paul's widowed dau Lucy) had to sort out the financial meltdown - Lucy it seems refused to sign documents - Lucy first married William Powell Buck (who does have an MI in Braddan) + lost husband + within a couple of yrs of marriage - tho there would appear to be an illeg child to said Lucy + John Cannell that predates her 1st marrage