Thank you so much for the information you have supplied, yes william walter was a widower when he married isabella margaret (1904) Im wondering if his 1st wife died in childbirth? Dont really know how to access isle of man records, i use ancestry.co.uk, and my package only shows census returns of the isle of man, & not BMD. Ill look again at the IGI in my library. I still dont know where william was born? Let me know if i can help you with anything, give you any info. Thanks again Doreen