Hi Averil
Thanks for that, i went to check my great grand father marriage cert again to make sure i had it correct and i did,
john henry cain age 50 father robert
[deceased ] a carter 18 richmond grove douglas to edith ann cowell age 49 a char woman father john cowell, Now that makes him born about 1866, on his death in 1924 it says age 59, making him born 1865- in 1901 census he is down as age 39 making him born 1862,