Hello Eric, thank you for explaining to me about your John Fell,

and yes, that is my John Fell in the census at Baldooin, Lonan, and only has Isle of Man as birthplace, and Catherine with her parents, William Kneale and Jane Kneen,

and my John Fell in 1871 census at Kinnish farm,
that's as far back as I can get at the moment,
thank you for all your help,
Averil