thankyou john for your response
this is now the second reference i have come across for dumbells i was in peel last friday and came across a house on the corner of love lane which was dumbells house according to frances notebook (old peel)there used to be a thatched cottage where dumbells house now stands where my gtx4 toddy fitzpatrick used to live he had an infamous daughter mary i was talking to the curator of the leece museum and mentioned this and asked me if mary was the naughty one!
lesley