Sue, I have just checked and information I have is from the ancestral file on the familysearch site. It has Bahee Lace's father as John Lace born 29/10/1650 Andreas and buried in 1727, married to a "Christian" don't know whether this is a first or last name. I have read your messages regarding the Joughins and altered my tree as I was one of those who had John Joughin (husband of Bahee) 1673-1737 instead of buried 1709. Have I got it wrong about John Lace? Thanks for any help Sue