Sandra
thanks , the reason i want it is because my grandad robert henry cain was born 1894, his sister lily cain born 1890 to john henry and edith [ nee cowl/cowle, john henry was born 1862 the only one i can find is his father being jonathan cain and jane but they have a son john cuthbert born 1862 and he married ? and also a john h cain 1862 a will i thinkits the one you have just mentioned said john hubert so none of these look like mine i cant understand it all ,i wonder an bout cains sometimes, is it only me who has bother finding them