Brendan, thanks,
you just reminded me as well, the john casement will i have, will scan it up later, although there are a lot of papers, you remember when you and me used to e-mail each other, did i tell you he had a family over here and that jim [ the long lost cousin that got in touch with me] he always thought that julia was cain[ nee comish ] as his mother edith was th daughter of harriet comish, but now is confused as i am still with my cains, every thing fits with jim untill he comes to julia, he does not remember a julia bell crellin, but his mum edith married a crellin[ thats his name robert crellin ] how do i work that out for him , i think to my self, anyway Brendan do you want the house plan as well, cant remember if it the norwood house douglas or the Aaish ramsey