thanks Len,
thats sorted that one out, i knew they were in hope st in 1901,
I will have to get money together and send for cert and see who johns parants are , as im still sure my nephew has tree all wrong as jonathon cain and jane son is john hubert cain, and in brians list it shows john hubert cain marries mary cowle in 1884, so i dont know where i go from here