Thanks Sue for your information, much appreciated.....Concerning John William Brew born 1834, all of the Whitehaven census' shows him as being born on the Isle of Man.....

The next child born was Caroline 1840 in Whitehaven. So a gap of 6 years...not saying a child or children were not born between and did not make it.

I never did try searching for a marriage of John and Eleanor in Whitehaven, assumed they were married on the Isle of Man.

Mmmmm another mystery here!!!

Tom