In response to the comment of Frances I presume the last two children were actually to the elder girls out of wedlock. I need to do more work on this.

Margaret asks about 'the right Julie Jane'. Following the 1871 census details which Brian had posted I have given details of my Julie Jane and presumed this fitted in with your details.

Most of the details can be chescked at the LDS Family search site.

Pleased to help in any way I can Alan