It takes very little to be rude and a class to be polite. Note: the Fick name came to the IOM from Germany: the Turner name to Anglos from Tournier France. I'd hate to post on a Scottish board and be stomped because Kneale isn't spelt that way in their country. Can we not be polite and hope that when we make an error others will gently guide us. Knowledge is useless unless you share it.