Ok Frances -so with the date of October 1734 it is more than likely unavailable - I wonder how the person who has a date added to their research has come up with such specific information - do CD's cost a lot of £'s - looking at some of the other queries I see a lot of familiar surnames. Also, do I take the info from from the Manx book as 'given' - I know a lot of people do. Thank you for your advice. If I am correct I think I saw somewhere a baptism for Matthew Taubman with a brother John - 1703'ish - parents Thomas and Elizabeth Norris (I think)