Hi Emma,
First Andreas generations:
1. John RATCLIFF, Ballaratcliff
2. The two sons of John Ratcliff, Ballaratcliff:
i John RATCLIFF, coroner, Ballaratcliff, b.c.1575
ii William RATCLIFF, of Ballakelly, b.c.1580
3. The three? sons of John Ratcliff, Ballaratcliff:
i John RATCLIFFE, eldest son, b.c.1605, the heir of Ballaratcliff.
ii Gilbert RATCLIFFE b.c.1610, d.1668, “assumed to be a younger brother of John Ratcliffe b.c.1605”, married Margaret KINRY heiress of Belfast.
iii? William RATCLIFFE d.1668 married Mally CHRISTIAN, d.1690. The 1668 Andreas will of William Ratcliffe mentions his son James Ratcliffe “four pounds when he come to lawful years” and his daughter Alice Ratcliff who was his sole exectr. He also names his father-in-law Michell Christian and his brother-in-law Will Christian. His kinsmen Gilbt Ratcliff, Joh Ratcliff, & Joh Christian of Ramsey were supervisors of his children. His widow Mally CHRISTIAN d.1690: [will]
“Gilbert RATCLIFFE b.c.1610 of Belfast, was assumed to be a younger brother of John Ratcliffe b.c.1605, the heir of Ballaratcliff. Their father was John, coroner, Ballaratcliff, b.c.1575, the son of John Ratcliff.
His younger son William, of Ballakelly, was b.c.1580.
Gilbert married Margt KINRY heiress of Belfast. This is a portion of the quarterland of Ballachurry. Gilbert’s son James inherited the West Croft of Belfast while son John received Crot-e-Lough. In the Manorial Roll 1727 Crot-e-Lough was numbered Intack 43 and was possessed by Thos Radcliffe.” [D.S. Dugdale]
Constance Radcliffe wrote: “Gilbert Radcliffe was taken…. to be a younger son of Ballaradcliffe, and was first entered for Intacks 43 and 44 (as they were numbered in the eighteenth century) in Andreas in 1625. He married Margaret Kinry …, and had two sons, James and John, and two daughters, Bahee and Katherine. The two sons received his various smallholdings of land, James taking the oddly-named Belfast, with the West Croft near Ballavarry, and John receiving Crot e Lough…” [‘The Radcliffes of Andreas’ by Constance Radcliffe. Isle of Man Natural History & Antiquarian Society, vol VIII no.2.]
“CORONER FOR AYRE
John Radcliffe junior who succeeded his father at Ballaradcliffe was also coroner for the sheading of Ayre for which he paid a rental of 40/- and both he and his brother William of Ballakelly, appear from year to year as members of the Setting Quest or as ' Moars for Andreas. John was associated with Gilbert Kelly as a holder of intack in Andreas in 1622 and probably married a sister or daughter of this Kelly. He had issue, besides his heir John, a younger son, Gilbert, who was the direct antecedent of the 'Sundher' branch.
Gilbert Radcliffe is first entered for intack in Andreas in 1625 and in the Liber Vast of 1631 his name appears along with Gilbert Skinner, Ewan Sayle, William Crebbin and Donald Kinrede, each of whom paid 6d. for their holdings.
In 1633 Gilbert Radcliffe's name is drawn and Dollin Curleod entered, but we find that Gilbert had married Margaret, the daughter of John Kinry and in 1648 the latter's name was drawn and Margaret is entered with her husband Gilbert Radcliffe. The appended note states that John Kinry was dead and his right had descended to his daughter and her husband "ye said Gilbert". This was for 1d rent, and in the same year Margaret and Gilbert were also entered for 4d rent in which, John Kinry, the father, is drawn: 2d rent in which Jony Kinry, the Mother, is drawn, and 2d rent for which Fynlo Kinry is drawn.
The Lords Survey of 1700-1710 shows that Gilbert Radcliffe had other lands for which he compounded in 1643, these were the crofts later known as Belfast, the West Croft opposite the entrance to Ballavarry facing Ohio Cottage, Ohio Cottage and the adjoining land and an unidentified croft called Crot-a-Lough.
He died in October, 1668, and his two sons, John who received Crot-a-Lough and the other intack holdings inherited from the Kinrys, and James who obtained possession of Old Belfast and the West Croft. John's descendants were for many generations designated 'y Vair' or 'y Voar' and some were described as 'Voar y Sundher'. According to the late Archdeacon Kewley these names were applied to this branch of the Radcliffes because they were overseers of the highways and not as some have thought a nickname implying that they lived by the road.” [‘Story of an Old Manx Northside Family: Radcliffe y Sundher of Andreas’ By R. Cunliffe Shaw, M.Sc.. F.R.C.S.. F.R.Hist.S. Reprinted from the Ramsey Courier of Wednesday, Dec. 24th. 1952.]
Gilbt Ratcliffe left a will dated 28 Oct. 1668 in which he named his son Jon, and Jon’s two children who were left "a yard of linen cloath". He also mentioned his two daughters Kathr: and Bahee, his son James, and James's son Jon. His wife was left his crofts and crops “as long as she liveth”, which were to go to his son James after her decease. [Arch will LDS film no.106201]
All these wills mentioned are transcribed on the IOM FHS website.
There is a gap in the Andreas parish register of most records between July 1685 & 1704.
Children of Gilbert RADCLIFFE & Margaret KINRY:
Two daughters:
Katherine
Bahee d.1690 married GARRETT? [Will of BAHEEY RATTLIFF LDS film no.0991646]
Two sons:
1.James
2.John
1.James Ratcliff b.c.1630, of Belfast, married Nelly KINREAD Nov 10th 1663. James Ratcliffe buried 11th December 1689 [will].
2. John Ratcliff b.c.1635 (of Crot-e-Lough) died 1669 [will].
John’s 4 underage children were born between c.1663 & 1669: their uncle James Ratcliff was their supervisor.
Son John b.c.1664, d.1701. The 1692 Composition book, Andreas, records John Radcliffe, son of John Radcliffe, land originally held by Gilbert Radcliffe, lives expired.
Son Thomas b.c.1666 [later of Lezayre].
Daughter Margaret b.c.1668 (not included in grandfather’s 1668 will, but was at lawful age in Dec.1682).
Unborn child: James son of John R. bapt. Andreas Feb.1669/70
Eldest son John b.c.1664, d.1701:
John c.1664-1701 married Margaret CANNELL who died as Margaret KNEAL 22 Dec.1723 [she married John Kneal after John Radcliffe's death].
Her will reveals that her husband was alive, and names her unmarried son Philip Radcliffe, her son Thomas Radcliffe and his son John Radcliffe, and her daughter Jony who was married to Philip Kynry.
Composition Book, 1692 “Jon Ratcliffe Senr & Jon Ratcliff Junr formerly Gilbt Ratcliffe. Expired”.
Transcript of Manor Rolls 1643-1700, John Ratcliffe entered for Ballavoddans meddow..
[William Radcliffe of Chester wrote that the croft Old Belfast was at Ballavoddans Meddow.]
The following intack to the above was:
No.78:
Tho: Radcliffe for Crott a Lough compd for in 1643 by Gilbt Ratcliff..
Followed by John Radcliffe for part of Lane More.
John RADCLIFF & Margaret CANNELL married early 1690s; John died 29 April 1701: decree to his 3 children: son Thomas, daughter Jony, & son Philip. Next of kin to his three underage children were his brothers Thomas and James Radcliffe, supervisors.
Children of John RADCLIFFE & Margaret CANNELL from decree and will:
1. Thomas b.c.1695/96, d.1732 [decree]
2. Jony b.c.1697/98, d.1739 [will] Joney Kinry als Radcliff buried 14 Dec 1739.
3. Philip b.c.1699/1700, d.1762 [will].
Sue