Yes Frances, that's all tallying as Sophia King named her chn to Philip Croaghan, John, Frances & Wm plus a Margaret & an Elizabeth (Elizabeth is my direct ancestor marrying John Kinvig) So Sophia (neeKing) had siblings John & Frances - now to try to find out who the parents were to these King chn. Progress - good. I'll need a few wet days on the IOM now to sit in the museum. Thanks again