Adrian, we are obviously quite closely connected. I don't know how far you have got with your research but we may be able to help each other. I have copies of of the baptisms for all but one of Patrick and Cecilia's children taken from the Manx Museum. I have also traced their children's families to Scotland, Rochdale, Barrow-in-Furness and America. I also have a couple of photographs. You can email me at dianeincoin at yahoo dot com. Diane