how did they get ashore ? - why is there absolutely NO record of any survivors - at that period there would be no passenger manifest which is why the initial reports were not 100% sure that all passengers were known - however I have read nowhere else of any suggestion that there were survivors, why would they remain silent - what were your relations doing in Ramsey in late November that they needed to get back to Liverpool on a foul night ? However I suggest this is not the best place to push this - try the local Manx press or Manx radio