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Hello Joe,

Regarding the identifier "Y Vayr" or y Vair, R. Cunliffe Shaw wrote in the Ramsey Courier of Wednesday, Dec. 24th. 1952, that Gilbert Radcliffe's two sons inherited the croft later known as Belfast, and the croft called Crot-a-Lough. The descendants of his eldest son John (d.1701) who received Crot-a-Lough and the other intack holdings inherited from the Kinrys "were for many generations designated 'y Vair' or 'y Voar' and some were described as 'Voar y Sundher'. According to the late Archdeacon Kewley these names were applied to this branch of the Radcliffes because they were overseers of the highways and not as some have thought a nickname implying that they lived by the road.”

I didn't follow your family once they left for England, but I have this for the 4th child of John RADCLIFFE 1817-1898 & Catherine CORLETT marr.1837 (which I have probably sent you before?):
4. Catherine Maria RADCLIFFE bapt 15 June 1845 Andreas married John (Thomas) EDWARDS Ramsey 27 Nov 1864 (aged 27, widower, chimney sweep, son of John Edwards Soldier. Catherine Radcliffe aged 20, spin., South Shore Ramsey, daur of John Radcliffe mason). John Edwards previously married Elizabeth Graves 15 May 1857, she was buried in Maughold 8 Apr 1864 aged 24.

Children of John Edwards & Catherine Radcliffe: Mary Ellen b.1866 Ramsey; John Thomas b.1867 Ramsey marr Catherine Lambert 12 May 1895 Maughold, bur.23 Feb.1940 Maughold 72 yrs, Catherine bur 17 Apr 1939 Mau 68 yrs; Emily b.1872 Ramsey; Laura b.1874 Ramsey.
In censuses: 1861 Maughold, 52 Maughold St: John Edwards marr 25 chimney sweep Ireland, Lydia wife 21 Eng, Catherine 1 IOM.
1871 Maughold, 3 Maughold St: John Edwards 44 bill slicker/chimney sweep Ireland, Catherine wife 31 IOM, John son 4 Ramsey, Catherine dau 10, Margaret dau 8, Mary dau 6.
1881 Maughold, 3 Maughold St: John Thomas Edwards 45 chimney Sweep Eng, Catherine wife 38 IOM Andreas, Mary Ellen dau 15 dom serv Ram, John son 14 chimney sweep Ram, Emily dau 9 Ram, Laura dau 7 Ram.
1891 Maughold, 3 Maughold St: John Edwards 53 sweep Whitehaven Eng, Catherine wife 50 Andreas, John 24 sweep Ram. 1901 Maughold, 3 Maughold St: John Edwards 60, Chimney sweep Eng, Catherine 58 Andreas.
1901 Maughold 10 Bark Lane: John Edwards 33 chimney sweep Ram, Catherine wife 31 Eng.

Maughold Old Yard:
ZA1: In loving memory of HENRY L EDWARDS died Nov 30th 1907/ also THOMAS OLIVER died Aug 10th 1911 aged 1 year/ PATRICIA M CHRISTIAN died Feb 19th 1931 aged 3 years
ZA2: In your charity pray for the souls of GRACE EDWARDS who died December 24th 1896 aged 9 weeks/ DOROTHY EDWARDS who died September 8th 1912 aged 2 years & 5 months/ EMILY OLIVER (nee EDWARDS) who died January 18th 1911 aged 38 years/ JOHN T EDWARDS who died February 21st 1940 aged 72 years R.I.P.
ZA 3: In your charity pray for the soul of JOHN EDWARDS March 19th 1908 aged 73 years/ also CATHERINE EDWARDS wife of the above died Oct 5th 1931 aged 93 years/ also their daughter in law CATHERINE EDWARDS wife of JOHN THOMAS EDWARDS died April 15th 1939 aged 69 years.

Sue

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