Well igot the marriage just in case for john henry cain and edith cowle 1888 liverpool and its defo not the them, and as i can only find them 1917 now , it must be them, i still cant understand why wait till that year, i dont think john henry was in the first war, but then it will only say next of kin edith , i am now trying for his birth as if i can get it , that will have his parants, if he was 50 in 1917 , then that makes him born 1867, dosent it, any idea if that the date to look up, please