Many Thanks for your help Brian and Sue. I agree finding children not with immediate family is always a difficult one, but these match up. Elizabeth Jones and Anne Cretney are half sisters, mother Margaret Clague fathers Daniel Corkhill and Caesar Cretney. Edward Jones 57 Shoemaker is the childrens uncle.

In 1851 the two Edwards are residing together in Sand St, Robert is in Manchester and Elizabeth and Charlotte are both deceased.

In 1861 I have Robert still in Manchester and the elder Edward I believe still in Sand St, the younger Edward remains my mystery man.

Many thanks again for your help,
Viv