Thank you Bruce for your productive information. I couldn't find them at all in the 1861 or 1881 census. I have looked at the James & Sarah but what put me off was the,' born in Gloucester' and job of 'groom.' Mind you, my father had told me that his father or maybe it was his grandfather had owned the old "Toast Rack" on Douglas Prom so that would fit in with "groom". Don't know how to find out for sure tho'. I thought they were just between I.O.M. & Liverpool. Thanks, Shirley.