Thanks for the very quick reply..yes it was wrong..John Cook on that one was a tailor..i know people change professions but it also said Catherine father was deceased and he wasnt..also checked today and there is a John and Catherine Cook in England with 1 son Archibald and that was that John Cooks father..my Alfred Turnbull Cook was in Liverpool with his Mum and Dad..said John Born Suffolk..Catherine born Isle of Man and Alfred born Liverpool..i did notice earlier there is a birth for Allfred..no Turnbull in the middle in Liverpool cant remmber the year 1868 i think..i am sure i didnt send for it!! will check my certs..i could send for it and cross reference it..but i would love to know where they married. Also can i ask how would i get Caterines death cert..she died in Rushen? If you could help on that one great...best wishes Lynn