In 1861 census John and Ann were still alive and were joined by Margaret Cretney, 11, granddaughter.

In 1851 census, 21 Sulby Village, Lezayre district 5:
Thomas, head, 37, stone mason (master) born Lezayre,
Ann Eliza, wife, 36, born Lezayre,
Thomas, son, 9, "
Mary Ann, daughter, 7, "
Susannah, ", 4,
Catherine, ", 10 months.

In 1861 their ages were given as 49, 48, 19, 17, 14, 10. They had another daughter,
Isabella, 7, born Lezayre, and
Mary Murry, mother in law, 78.
Janet.