Hello Len - with the aid of your help I have located two of the three - although I can see it on the ships manifest - I still cannot get Wilfred's individual details. I have discovered that John B Butterworth returned to the UK - he died in 1913 and I think that's why I have a sailing for Wllfred in 1913 to USA. I think he possibly returned for funeral of his father. I found the manifest through Ellis Island Data Base - but cannot find it on Ancestry. Is there anyway I can print off the full page of the manifest on which the three feature