Thank you SUE and everyone lese for all your time spent on trying to help me in my Search for the right philip.
I have printed everything you have said and will now try and study it to see where I go from here, Donna says it has been a fascinating Search and I am pleased at that, I hope it has been for all of you.
I only know I could not have got to know half of what you all discoved. It seems I have gone as far as I can go with any degree of certainty unless I discover a new route.

THANKyou all. Raymond