Hi Brian, I have no idea when my grandparents married I am very thankful to you and others for the information thats been given to me, I look at your site most days and have found a lot of information of which I am very thankful, My fatherRichard Gelling was born 20.5.1914 at 23 Hildesley Road Douglas to Mary Violet Gelling Formerly Kewley ( Is formerly a usual word and Not nee Kewley could this mean they were not married) his father was Richard Gelling tram car driver Thanks Barbara